{Character Interview} Shawn Kleiner of Laura Vosika's The Water is Wide





We’re thrilled to be talking to Shawn Kleiner from Laura Vosika’s The Water is Wide. It is a pleasure to have him with us today at Pimp That Character!

Thank you for your interview, Shawn.  How old are you and what do you do for a living?

26. But I’ll tell you, 26 in 1315 feels a whole lot older—I’m talking wise, mature—than 26 in my past—by which I mean the twenty-first century.

What do I do? In my past life—in your time—I was an entertainer. Yeah, fabulously wealthy and I thought pretty highly of myself. Hey, in my defense, so did plenty of other people. Especially women and the people making money off me.

Now, 1315, 1316—I fight for the Bruce. I raid England with James Douglas. Yeah, I know, raiding, burning, looting churches which for some reason Douglas always makes me do—I know that’s meant to be awful. But you gotta know what was going on before you judge.

Oh, and I save Niall’s neck. A lot. I had to haul him out of Chez MacDougall right under the shadow of the gallows they were building for him and now this little jaunt to Jura—he’s got this thing about water. Me—I love it! He was kind of pissy about me getting him out of it. Ungrateful lunkhead if you ask me. Yeah, that’s what I do.

Can you tell us about one of your most distinguishable features?

Besides my ego? Confidence? Oh, you mean things you can see? Tall? Good-looking? Auburn hair. Long red-gold hair. The ladies love it. It was my trademark.

What would I love the most about you?

The most? [Laughs] What’s not to love?

Look—all jesting—I mean kidding—aside. I had my faults. Okay, I had lots of faults. But I had some redeeming qualities even then. Like—I’m generous. Even the people who hated me the most in the twenty-first century (and yeah, there were plenty vying for that title) had to admit I was really generous. And pretty damn funny, too. I threw the best parties.

What is your most treasured possession?

I might have once said my trombone. I mean—I make my living with it. But more than that, to be able to make music—it’s like flying, leaving all the misery of life below while you soar. Know what I mean?

I might have said my house. A mansion with floor to ceiling windows on either side of a two-story fireplace and acres of granite counters in the kitchen, on twenty acres with a stream and a little waterfall.

But now—possessions don’t seem to matter much. Like—I don’t actually own anything here. A gold chain the Bruce gave me. And the pony for winning that joust. [laughs] Yeah, I kind of love that pony. Which is funny because I hated horses.

But mostly—it’s people that matter now. The things we do together and surviving and working together.


What is your idea of a perfect day?

Any day in which I don’t end up dead.

My answer would have once been, a day with a great sold out performance, money pouring in, filet mignon, fine wine, satin sheets, and a beautiful woman.

Funny how our views change, isn’t it? Fighting with the Bruce, raiding with Douglas, being on the front line at Bannockburn with twenty thousand medieval knights charging you, being swiped across the middle by one of their blades—yeah, any day where I go to bed still alive is a perfect day now.

Hawking and riding with Niall, Allene, Hugh, Christina—that’s a pretty sweet day, too. Even if I did totally humiliate myself with that stupid bird in front of Christina. [laughs] Okay, maybe it was a little bit funny. In retrospect. The shock on her face—now that was funny!

If you could change one physical thing about yourself, what would that be?

[spreads arms, turns, showing off] This? Why would I want change this? Well, okay, I’d get rid of the scar left by the knight’s sword. Medieval medical care isn’t exactly Beverly Hills plastic surgery. [snorts] Guess I should be grateful to be alive.

Who is your best friend?

Okay, I hate the sappy questions. I hate them. But let’s get real for a minute. Niall. He’s a stick in the mud, all about faith and Mr. Purity and Duty and crap. I’m always having to save his neck and step in for him and the one time he had to give me a hand, he never lets me forget.

But—yeah, he’s the best friend I ever had. I hate to admit it—and so does he—but in some ways we’re kind of alike. And—well, he did haul my two halves off that battlefield. I’ve never had anyone I knew who would put themselves on the line for me the way I know he will.

Do you have children?

Yeah. [stares at ground] Yeah, Amy was pregnant when I left. You know, I thought once—I’m not the father type. Life is about having fun. And now—now what I want most is to tell Amy I’m sorry and to see our child.

I even prayed. Told God, hey, look, I set Niall straight about you. Told him you’re all about love, so send me back. I learned my lesson. And—well, here I am. It’s still 1315.

Someone is secretly in love with you.  Who is it and how do you feel about that?

It’s not really all that secret. But it’s not like we’ve ever say anything out loud. [stares out the window for a minute and speaks softly.] Christina. [looks up.] How do I feel? [laughs, shakes head] Confused!

One—I’m trying to get back to Amy. I swore this time I was going to be faithful to her. Even in my heart. And I never did anything but kiss Christina’s fingers which is really just a social convention here. Then again, so is keeping your barbet on in front of men. And there she was with her hair uncovered....

Never mind. Two—Confused. I teased Amy mercilessly about her ‘Victorian’ attitudes. And now I’m in love with someone who’s light years away from being even that up to date? I don’t get it.


If you knew you were going to die tomorrow, what would you do today?

Dying tomorrow—or even today—is a very real prospect in 1315. Given my choice—I’d tell Amy I’m sorry. Really, really sorry. I’d tell her I’d do anything to make it up to her, all the crappy, lousy things I did. The way I got other people to lie and cover for me and play mind games with her, till she doubted her own senses.

But the truth is, I’m stuck here in 1315. What I’ll do today is probably save Niall’s medieval heiny. Again. I don’t mean to brag, but man, he’s lucky to have me around.

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About the Author

Laura Vosika is a writer, poet, and musician. Her time travel series, The Blue Bells Chronicles, set in modern and medieval Scotland, has garnered praise and comparisons to writers as diverse as Diana Gabaldon and Dostoevsky. Her poetry has been published in The Moccasin and The Martin Lake Journal 2017.

She has been featured in newspapers, on radio, and TV, has spoken for regional book events, and hosted the radio program Books and Brews. She currently teaches writing at Minneapolis Community and Technical College.

As a musician, Laura has performed as on trombone, flute, and harp, in orchestras, and big bands. She lives in Brooklyn park with 5 of her 9 children, 3 cats, and an Irish Wolfhound.

Her latest book is the time travel/historical fiction, The Water is Wide.

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About the Book:

Title: THE WATER IS WIDE
Author: Laura Vosika
Publisher: Gabriel’s Horn Press
Pages: 451
Genre: Time Travel/Historical Fiction

BOOK BLURB:

After his failure to escape back to his own time, Shawn is sent with Niall on the Bruce’s business. They criss-cross Scotland and northern England, working for the Bruce and James Douglas, as they seek ways to get Shawn home to Amy and his own time.

Returning from the Bruce’s business, to Glenmirril, Shawn finally meets the mysterious Christina. Despite his vow to finally be faithful to Amy, his feelings for Christina grow. 

In modern Scotland, having already told Angus she’s pregnant, Amy must now tell him Shawn is alive and well—in medieval Scotland. Together, they seek a way to bring him back across time.
They are pursued by Simon Beaumont, esteemed knight in the service of King Edward, has also passed between times. Having learned that Amy’s son will kill him—he seeks to kill the infant James first.

The book concludes with MacDougall’s attack on Glenmirril, Amy and Angus’s race to be there and Shawn’s attempt to reach the mysterious tower through the battling armies.

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